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  •  Tue, Oct 30 2007, 9:26 AM 322573

    3 hours away and Makes me wonder

    I was just wonderring if those two songs are the exact same or am I just going insane? lol They seem to be the same lyrics, lol

    Peace and Love,

    Jessy


    *Your promises and whispered words are forever on my mind*
    ~Maybe soon there'll come a day
    When no more tears will fall~

  •  Tue, Oct 30 2007, 10:09 AM 322575 in reply to 322573

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    Re: 3 hours away and Makes me wonder

    3 Hours & Where I Was Before are the same song.

    Greg Keelor met Jim Cuddy and then I met you people. Serendipity is a marvellous thing.


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  •  Wed, Oct 31 2007, 8:50 AM 322632 in reply to 322575

    Re: 3 hours away and Makes me wonder

    Thats so weird, lol. I love the songs, soo nicee:)


    *Your promises and whispered words are forever on my mind*
    ~Maybe soon there'll come a day
    When no more tears will fall~

  •  Wed, Oct 31 2007, 9:04 AM 322633 in reply to 322632

    Re: 3 hours away and Makes me wonder

    oops, thats what I meant, duh. lol anyways, why would they do that?
    *Your promises and whispered words are forever on my mind*
    ~Maybe soon there'll come a day
    When no more tears will fall~

  •  Sat, Jan 19 2008, 6:17 PM 326998 in reply to 322633

    Re: 3 hours away and Makes me wonder

    Same lyrics, different instrumentals.

    "3 Hours Away" features guitars and "Where I Was Before" features piano. I prefer the piano version.

    Question I have is what is meant by '3 hours away'??? Just can't figure this one line out in the song.

    Great album altogether. Very mello and easy listening for pretty well all songs.

  •  Sat, Jan 19 2008, 8:10 PM 327004 in reply to 326998

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    Re: 3 hours away and Makes me wonder

    I think that it means that he is three hours away from the person he is longing for, and this distance represents not just a physical barrier between them, but an emotional barrier as well. Perhaps he feels that if he confronts this person about how he feels, the distance will become even greater.  Not sure if this answers your question, but that is my take on it anyway.
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  •  Sat, Jan 19 2008, 9:44 PM 327007 in reply to 327004

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    Re: 3 hours away and Makes me wonder

    That's a pretty good read on "3 Hours Away/Makes Me Wonder" CarolK. I have always sensed a nagging presence of guilt in Jim's songs to the person or persons he longs or cares for that somehow by his "chasing songs from town to town" or "chasing ghosts" or whatever...that whatever it is he does has hurt, does hurt and will continue to hurt the people who he "knows". Of course we all know that Jim's songs are not autobiographical...Still he gives us a unique sense of what kind of price one may have to pay for choosing to be a rock star. Quite ironic, as I was just listening to The Byrds' "So You Wanna Be A Rock and Roll Star" on their Greatest Hits album as I was reading this thread. I see that theme of guilt of Jim's stream through "Sad Nights", "Bad Timing" and "Rena" so I'm guessing it's been something on his  mind for the better part of the past 15 years.

    I had toyed with the idea of a career in music for a while when I was young, but after I heard perhaps the definitive life on the road rock song namely "Ballad of Mott the Hoople (March 26, 1972-Zurich)" on the great glam rock classic "Mott" by Mott the Hoople from 1973, I decided not to quit my day job...however boring such a job was. And even now when I occasionally think about what life would have been like if I had followed my muse and sought fame and fortune with my axe and my songs, I am so glad I never became a rock and roll star. What an awful life it must be. "Rock and roll is a loser's game... it mesmerizes and I can't explain the reasons for the sights and for the sounds" Sad

  •  Sun, Jan 20 2008, 8:48 AM 327014 in reply to 327007

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    Re: 3 hours away and Makes me wonder

    A slight clarification- My youthful aspirations to become a rock and roll star as described above were totally pipe dreams. The fact that I can't play any more than two chords on a guitar to this day, and that I had absolutely no songs written then or now, also were big factors in my deciding not to quit my day job. LOL!!! Had I ever gone into the music business it would have been as and A & R man, an in house counsel to a record company or as a business/legal consultant to an artist.

    Of course back in 1976-78, one often really didn't need any technical musical expertise or any song writing ability to become semi-famous. It was the age of the punker and the new waver and the do it yourself (D.I.Y.) approach to making pop music. Case in point being the Sex Pistols who prided themselves on the fact that they hadn't learned how to play guitar, drums or bass. But primitivism only lasted so long. They made their point & fizzled or as Neil Young observed they burned out...as opposed to rusting.

    Seriously, I have the utmost respect for anyone who can play guitar well, and who can write original songs and who can sing and who is willing to slog it out on the road doing 200 plus shows a year...like some band we may just happen to admire.Wink

  •  Sun, Jan 20 2008, 11:56 AM 327017 in reply to 327004

    Re: 3 hours away and Makes me wonder

    carolk:
    I think that it means that he is three hours away from the person he is longing for, and this distance represents not just a physical barrier between them, but an emotional barrier as well. Perhaps he feels that if he confronts this person about how he feels, the distance will become even greater.  Not sure if this answers your question, but that is my take on it anyway.

    Makes sense. I was thinking something of the same, but just found that one line hard to interpret. Thanks.

    Each studio recording of this song has Jim singing two different vocals as well as the different instrumentals. In "Where I Was Before", Jim plays with the lyrics a bit and doesn't have Greg singing background. I think this version offers a bit more emotional impact than the other.

    Interesting that they give the song two different titles.

  •  Sun, Jan 20 2008, 12:11 PM 327018 in reply to 327017

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    Re: 3 hours away and Makes me wonder

    My brother-in-law & I just had this conservsation last night, he thought they were different songs.

    I got the same as CarolK from 3 Hours Away & I  always thought Jim's songs had the underlying tones that Peter mentioned too. That to me is so sad. I think certain things in life are so glamourized we forget that certain people are just that, people & in every life there is pain. Not that these songs are about Jim's life but they must come from somewhere whether it is his observation or experiences. jmho

      3 Hours Away / Where I Was Before

     

    Can’t get used to what you told me You said better brace yourself
    There's changes coming in I wake up to a brand-new story
    Stop the clock that's ticking on the shelf
    Then let it all begin

    Now I know that I'm right here where I was before
    Chasing all my ghosts around
    Maybe I worry what I will say
    Now I'm only 3 hours away

    Living in between the pages
    Watching the strangers come and go Just life that’s passing by
    It all keeps coming down in stages
    Only hurts the ones you know No matter what you try

    Now I know that I'm right here where I was before
    Chasing songs from town to town
    Maybe I worry what I will say
    Now I'm only 3 hours away

    Some things aren't meant to last
    Like a day that burns up fast
    Turn away and then it's gone

    Sun comes the red sky morning
    I pray that the trouble all has passed
    Just something that I dreamed I must have missed all of your warnings
    I guess we played too fast Much closer than it seemed

    Now I know that I'm right here where I was before
    Making all my plans alone
    Maybe I worry what I will say Now I'm only 3 hours away
    Maybe I worry what I will say Now I'm only 3 hours away

     


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  •  Sun, Jan 20 2008, 2:31 PM 327022 in reply to 327018

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    Re: 3 hours away and Makes me wonder

    dar:

    My brother-in-law & I just had this conservsation last night, he thought they were different songs.

    I got the same as CarolK from 3 Hours Away & I  always thought Jim's songs had the underlying tones that Peter mentioned too That to me is so sad. I think certain things in life are so glamourized we forget that certain people are just that, people & in every life there is pain. Not that these songs are about Jim's life but they must come from somewhere whether it is his observation or experiences. jmho

    I got the same general feeling, but what I really took from the song was that the he was having to deal with an important issue (maybe in his relationship?) that he'd been avoiding (both emotionally and physically), was "only 3 hours away" from home and still wasn't sure how he was going to approach it or what he was going to say to the person...

    It's almost like one of those situations in a relationship - and I've been there - where you've been trying to tell your partner something for a long time... perhaps that you haven't been happy or that changes needed to be made in the relationship, and your partner just wasn't getting it and didn't "get it" until it was too late...Sad, but it happens all too often.

    ...Can’t get used to what you told me You said better brace yourself
    There's changes coming in...

    ...Now I know that I'm right here where I was before
    Chasing all my ghosts around
    Maybe I worry what I will say
    Now I'm only 3 hours away...

    ...I must have missed all of your warnings...

     

    Also, like Dar mentioned above, the song doesn't necessarily pertain to Jim directly. I find that he often writes about other people's lives.
  •  Wed, Jan 23 2008, 11:25 PM 327225 in reply to 327022

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    Re: 3 hours away and Makes me wonder

    Also, like Dar mentioned above, the song doesn't necessarily pertain to Jim directly. I find that he often writes about other people's lives. - Bluegirl

    Yeah, I know that Jim often takes inspiration from something he has observed, or heard around him.  I think that Greg used to kid around that Jim was always using his life (Greg's) to base his songs on. Like Jim didn't have an interesting enough life to base his own songs on!  Just typical of the kind of funny digs they would exchange back and forth.


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  •  Thu, Jan 24 2008, 9:01 PM 327324 in reply to 327225

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    Re: 3 hours away and Makes me wonder

    Jim should write a song called "300 feet away" about the restraining order he should probably take out on certain fans that stalk him.
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  •  Thu, Jan 24 2008, 9:06 PM 327327 in reply to 327324

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    Re: 3 hours away and Makes me wonder

    NYCBRFAN:
    Jim should write a song called "300 feet away" about the restraining order he should probably take out on certain fans that stalk him.

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  •  Thu, Jan 24 2008, 9:08 PM 327328 in reply to 327327

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    Re: 3 hours away and Makes me wonder

    Bluegirl:

    NYCBRFAN:
    Jim should write a song called "300 feet away" about the restraining order he should probably take out on certain fans that stalk him.

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

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